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Anger over police plans to use unmarked vans to catch speeders



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A MOVE by police in Derbyshire to use unmarked vans to catch speeding motorists this summer has come under fire.
Andy Evans, a Belper resident who drives to work in Wirksworth every day, said: "I think it's very underhand. I don't disagree with having speed cameras but I think they need to be visible. This suggests it is just a money making exercise.

"Hidden
cameras do nothing to actually slow a speeding motorist down, they just punish them later on. The flashing signs, like the one on Kilburn Road in Belper, are much more effective at actually slowing people down.

"If they really want to clamp down on speeding then they need a highly visible presence in my opinion."

Jim Banahan, secretary of the Belper and District Road Safety Committee, said: "I don't have a problem with it really. Anything that gets people to obey the speed limit is a good thing, however I do wonder if a visible presence might be more effective.

"I would like to see greater uniformed police presence on the roads. If we were to see more police doing their jobs out on the road on motorbikes or in cars then it would help the situation more.

"It will be interesting to see if it has any impact and if a greater visible police presence could have a greater impact."

A spokesman for Derbyshire Police said: "Our fleet is made up of a range of marked and unmarked vehicles.

"Our marked and plain vehicles carry out a range of duties on our roads, including speed enforcement.

"This work is carried out on routes which are already signposted as having speed enforcement cameras sited on them and analysis has highlighted as being collision hotspots.

"Despite attempting to raise awareness and educate motorists to the dangers of excessive speeds on Derbyshire roads, there are some who continue to flout the law and put themselves and others at risk."

Tell us what you think? Are the police right to use unmarked vehicles to catch speeders?



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  • Last Updated: 05 May 2008 11:51 AM
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BG,

Belper 05/05/2008 14:45:11
Simple answer - stop speeding!
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MJM,

Belper 06/05/2008 13:34:56
I do a lot of mileage mainly business and these days I seem to spend more time looking at the dashboard to check my speed and checking grass verges for badly parked transit vans than I do concentrating on the road. I agree speeding is a contributory factor to accident s but where are the police and the speed traps at 11 pm when the boy racers with the wide boar exhausts are flying up chesterfield road at over 60. I find it a complete disgrace that i have been fined for going 4 miles an hour over the limit in a 40 in excellent conditions on a rural road by a tallivan yet out of hours when its dark, raining and speed is a real danger on the roads the police are tucked up nice and warm. Am i just an easy target as i work hard take my punnishment and pay fines reducing their paperwork.
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Brassed Off of Belper,

A very sunny Windy Gap 06/05/2008 17:15:26
I completely sympathize and agree with MJM. As soon as the evening rush-hour 'river of steel' dies down on Chesterfield Road, the little boy racers crawl out of the woodwork. I do like MJM's idea of a 'wide boar' exhaust. I now have an image of a large wild pig strapped to the back of a car: I think you mean 'bore'. Five years ago, I was fined for doing 33mph in a 30mph zone at 8am on a stretch of road that was dry and devoid of other traffic and pedestrians. My car was only three days old so it was in as good a mechanical state as possible. As MJM as mentioned, the police ought to get off their backsides and witness the stretch of road from the Queens Head up to Ashford Rise between 7-11pm. Then they might see who the dangerous drivers are.

As for BG's simplistic 'don't speed', if we all continually pay more attention to our speedometers than to what's around us, there will be more accidents, not less. Speed cameras, whether they be visible or hidden in the back of some sweaty Transit, are nothing but revenue generators, pure and simple. If it was the police's intention to prevent accidents by making people observe speed limits, there would be more patrols on the roads. Did anyone else notice that the day the speed limit into Little Eaton from the Abbey Hill roundabout was changed from 50mph to 40mph, there was a speed camera there? Pepole who drive that stretch of road all the time would be used to it being 50mph upto the 30 sign as you enter the village. I wonder how many extra £60 fines were dished out that day?
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vp,

belper 07/05/2008 22:45:09
I may be wrong , but the Department for Transport
Handbook of Rules and Guidance for the
National Safety Camera Programme for
England and Wales for 2006/07,(http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/speedmanagement/nscp/handbookofrulesandguidancefo4582,) rule 4, does seem to indicate that speed camera locations should be visible. Perhaps Derbyshire Police need to think again....
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King Street Resident,

Belper 11/05/2008 10:37:27
It does not take much effort to keep an eye on your speed, in fact the speedometer should be looked at at least every 10 seconds. if you cant do that then you should not be on the roads at all. I am all in favor for the Un-marked vans because, if people did the speed limit there would be nothing to worry about. Its quite simple really. Obey the speed limits and you wont get fined!!!
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Brassed Off of Belper,

A sultry Windy Gap 11/05/2008 21:07:43
To all intents and purposes, it really doesn't matter what speed you are doing if some idiot steps out in front of you and you have no time to brake.

Don't get me wrong - I am not advocating speeding. I am saying everbody has to take responsibility for their behaviour whether they are drivers, pedestrians, cyclists, horse riders or whatever: it should not lie solely with the motorists.

It is so easy to lay the blame 100% at the feet of the motorist. Too often it is a p*ssed up pedestrian who steps out in front of a fully-licenced, fully-insured, perfectly sober motorist but it is the latter that cops it every time.
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Kilbourne Road Res.,

Belper 12/05/2008 23:06:15
I totaly disagree with the coment in the article saying The flashing signs, like the one on Kilburn Road in Belper, are much more effective at actually slowing people down as when the boy racers come out at 7pm they come flying down the hill at god knows what speeds just so they can get the sign to light up for the hell of it. Thay think its great that everyone knows they are speeding they think it makes them big and hard. No one can tell me otherwise i live on this road and i've seen it all. More marked police cars are needed in these areas in an evening. Unmarked vans aint gonna help!
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Today's Vote

Do you think it's right for the police to use unmarked vans to trap speeding motorists?
Yes- it will teach people to curb their speed
No- it's just a ploy to make more money.

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